It was time to change out the air filter that was on the 05 when I bought it. Never really liked this type of air filter system.
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Ghost03hemi
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Your engine needs the trims dialed in in these ranges all these changes just change the effects it has and will not solve anything your chasing your tail just saying
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Just in the process of trouble shooting the problems and checking the possible causes off the list. It's obvious that the tune is one of the problems. Nailing down why the engine is running rich in all for corners is at the top of my list. Will soon see if the ritter was the cause of that or not. At the same time, changing the engine over to what I originally wanted it to be. There's allot that still needs to be done. Tuning will not happen any time soon.
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Already know that the tune is cause of the a/f ratio & engine rpm surging/hunting. Are you saying that the tune also caused all four corners to run rich as well?
If you listen to what Keith is telling you ...the tune is the most important part of this whole thing. If you do not have fuel trims where they need to be the engine will never run correctly. It needs to be tuned first and then if you want to make changes then the tune can be modified to those changes .you can't start making changes when you have a tune that is incompatible with what you're doing......IMO
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Not compensating for intake manifold volume will have negative consequences on quality of throttle response and fuel trims.. tuning is a major part of the process, not something added on ....
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I agree with what all three of you are saying about the tune.
There's a few problems that I'm looking to test, get fixed, and stuff that needs to be installed before getting it tuned again. One of the test was to see how the ocp intake manifold basically runs with the HHP turbo cam. So far, it runs good with it. The next test was to plug the spark plug wires into the same cylinder that they came from. To see if it would help stop the spark plugs from fouling as bad. And run that way with no problems like spitting or sputtering from the spark plugs. So far, it seems to run better that way. Need to drive it just a few more times to see what the spark plugs look like with the spark plug wires plugged into the same cylinders. Plus, need to drive it a few more times to make the final decision weather or not the HHP turbo cam will be swapped out for the milder rv/turbo cam. Also checking if the ccv is working as I want it too.
There's a few problems that I'm looking to test, get fixed, and stuff that needs to be installed before getting it tuned again. One of the test was to see how the ocp intake manifold basically runs with the HHP turbo cam. So far, it runs good with it. The next test was to plug the spark plug wires into the same cylinder that they came from. To see if it would help stop the spark plugs from fouling as bad. And run that way with no problems like spitting or sputtering from the spark plugs. So far, it seems to run better that way. Need to drive it just a few more times to see what the spark plugs look like with the spark plug wires plugged into the same cylinders. Plus, need to drive it a few more times to make the final decision weather or not the HHP turbo cam will be swapped out for the milder rv/turbo cam. Also checking if the ccv is working as I want it too.
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.....My .02 worth .....
FWIW Stu I'm following along with your Madness, My take is ....if all 16 plugs foul/lean(or at least look some what the same) then yes the Ritter was a major part of your Issue...then the next step is_________________(blank to be filled by Stu)
Personally I think the HHP cam will suit your goal better then the RV/Tow cam.
FWIW Stu I'm following along with your Madness, My take is ....if all 16 plugs foul/lean(or at least look some what the same) then yes the Ritter was a major part of your Issue...then the next step is_________________(blank to be filled by Stu)
Personally I think the HHP cam will suit your goal better then the RV/Tow cam.
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It's called: Turbocharged Hemi Fever Madness...
Caught it when the 392 was in the 03. Got a bad tune in that truck too.:banghead: But, when I installed the KRC 390 tune in the 03. It ran fine with the exception that it started to run lean later on.:banghead: Had the ritter intake on the 392 at that time and the outer cylinders wasn't running rich... And ended up putting the 348 back in the 03 because I had a good running boost tune from KRC.
You already know about the 05's tune... That made me a little psycho to say the least.:banghead: The good news is, I'm double and triple checking EVERYTHING. Getting the engine back to what I originally wanted to make sure things go as they should for the future tuning. There's a method to my Madness. So, just follow along and enjoy the Madness ride.
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Sometimes, you have to work with what you have at the time to make forward progress. But, only to a certain point. If I decide to change anything else. Wont be able to use the present _____ tune. So, just follow along and enjoy the Madness ride.
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It runs good with the exception of the sluggishness from idle to 2000rpm. The ocp intake manifold has helped it run a little better all around so far. The mild rv/turbo cam is a good all around street cam and does well under boost.
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:icon_peace::igiveup:rayersent::thumb:
I wont give up!
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Went for another test drive/cruise today. Here's the positive & negative notes that came out of the test/cruise drive.
:thumb::thumb: It's definitely running better with both spark plugs firing at the same time in the same cylinder. Doesn't feel like the spark plugs are slowly fouling out. It's obvious now that both spark plugs need to be firing in the same cylinder at the same time with this kind of performance tune. Will order some shorty spark plug wires.
:thumb::thumb: When normal driving and putting the od on, the exhaust sound goes quiet. It's a good thing to have when your cruising by the popo.
:thumb::thumb: Like the acceleration from a stop light in rush hour traffic. Easily pulls ahead of rush hour traffic drivers by just going up to 27-2800rpm without going into boost.
:thumb::thumb: Can control the boosting up at higher engine rpms into a non boost driving with the throttle pedal.
:thumb::thumb: Boosting up will start to happen once the tc stall (2900 to 3000rpm) is reached with a stomp of the throttle peddle.
:thumb::thumb::thumb: The ATS trans and Copilot are working great. It drives like a stock smooth shifting 545rfe trans. The only difference is the Pro Edge 2800 stall tc. 130-140 degrees cruising on 95 going 80mph.
:thumb::thumb::thumb: The ocp intake manifold and the HHP stage 4 turbo cam are running good together. Going to leave the HHP turbo cam in the engine. AFR's are looking fine under normal driving acceleration. They are working well together on normal street driving.
:thumb::thumb: The cruise control is working. The afr isn't surging/hunting back and forth at the 1400 to 1700 rpm range while in overdrive for some reason. The afr does move around but, it looks to be normal operational movement.
:thumb::thumb: It's definitely running better with both spark plugs firing at the same time in the same cylinder. Doesn't feel like the spark plugs are slowly fouling out. It's obvious now that both spark plugs need to be firing in the same cylinder at the same time with this kind of performance tune. Will order some shorty spark plug wires.
:thumb::thumb: When normal driving and putting the od on, the exhaust sound goes quiet. It's a good thing to have when your cruising by the popo.
:thumb::thumb: Like the acceleration from a stop light in rush hour traffic. Easily pulls ahead of rush hour traffic drivers by just going up to 27-2800rpm without going into boost.
:thumb::thumb: Can control the boosting up at higher engine rpms into a non boost driving with the throttle pedal.
:thumb::thumb: Boosting up will start to happen once the tc stall (2900 to 3000rpm) is reached with a stomp of the throttle peddle.
:thumb::thumb::thumb: The ATS trans and Copilot are working great. It drives like a stock smooth shifting 545rfe trans. The only difference is the Pro Edge 2800 stall tc. 130-140 degrees cruising on 95 going 80mph.
:thumb::thumb::thumb: The ocp intake manifold and the HHP stage 4 turbo cam are running good together. Going to leave the HHP turbo cam in the engine. AFR's are looking fine under normal driving acceleration. They are working well together on normal street driving.
:thumb::thumb: The cruise control is working. The afr isn't surging/hunting back and forth at the 1400 to 1700 rpm range while in overdrive for some reason. The afr does move around but, it looks to be normal operational movement.
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And now the negatives from today's test drive/cruise.
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Still the same tune problems at 1200 to 1700rpm with the afr & engine rpm surging/hunting. The afr surges back and forth from 12.0 to 15.4 in that rpm range and throttle peddle load position in drive with a/c on. Engine hunts/surges 100rpm at that rpm range. Turn a/c off and still have afr & engine rpm surge/hunt, just not as bad. 12.8 to 14.9 surging/hunt.
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When driving above 35mph. Let off the throttle peddle and the afr's go rich (12.2 to 13.2 afr) and stay there until the truck is stopped or throttle is applied. Can see the pcm trying to adjust it but, it never changes.
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Shocks are too stiff making the truck ride rough and bounce around.
All in all, it was a good test drive/cruise. Making positive progress. :thumb:
All in all, it was a good test drive/cruise. Making positive progress. :thumb:
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:thumb::thumb: Also the ccv system is working good too.
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Just got done inspecting the spark plugs.
They looked great! The spark plugs are looking the way their supposed to now. :SWEET1: Finally moving forward again. :dance::dance::dance:
Both plugs firing at the same time in each cylinder. Only one spark plug firing, could cause many tuning issues. That seems to be the case here. Humm..
They looked great! The spark plugs are looking the way their supposed to now. :SWEET1: Finally moving forward again. :dance::dance::dance:
Both plugs firing at the same time in each cylinder. Only one spark plug firing, could cause many tuning issues. That seems to be the case here. Humm..
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OMG ...... did I laugh when I saw this post.......:icon_peace::igiveup:
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Have a few more things to get done first. Posi & gears, install the manual boost controller from the 03, swap around front suspension springs from the 03, install softer riding shocks, shorty spark plug wires, build a new hot side turbo system. ect, ect...
Wondering if I should reset the running history and raise the fuel pressure back up again to what it was tuned at. Will test that out later to see what it does.
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