Yeah... T-56. Same tranny in the Viper, and same tranny Keisler uses in the 6-speed manual tranny swap for the HEMI Chargers, but still, nobody will do it.

Hemi Shop said they would, and get me a price within the week, but that was months ago. Still waitin' on an answer, and can't seem to get a hold of them.

 

I'd love to do that mod, but it's pretty indepth. I think I could handle the fab work, it's the money that's the problem.

 

Fab work isn't the problem. Keisler said they'd do that for me. If I remember right, they even said the bellhousing they have would work... the issue was getting the tranny to talk to the motor so the motor doesn't go into limp mode thinking the tranny blew, aka no tranny behind it. And for those who don't know, that means the motor won't go over 2000rpm.

 

ECM out of a 2500 with a manual tranny will fix that.

 

If it was that easy, you'd think someone would've done that already. So I dunno. How do you know that'd work?

MOPAR has to have something that'd work, cause what do they do with their crate engines? Not every crate engine application will include a tranny... so how do they make those run??

 

It has been done, just not by anyone that posts on any of the forums that I know of.

 

Where'd you see it? I can't find anything anywhere, nor any shops that have even HEARD of it done, let alone give it the time of day. Do you know if it works just on the 5.7, or can it be used on the 6.1 and modified motors?

 

I would think it would be able to handle anything you can throw at it within reason. I can't remember where I read it at. But I think it was on DTW a while back. Two people had done it, one was in Cali, and the other was in like north dakota or montana or something. I'll see if I can find it again.

 

I'd appreciate it cause I'd put all other mods on hold to do this.

 

I'm diggin...

 

Originally posted by TheBoss:
I'd appreciate it cause I'd put all other mods on hold to do this.

Boss that will be one hell of a mod if you can pull it off..I love the NV4500 5speed in my moose, I can only imagine a T-56

keep up informed on your progress. Im sure your smile will be from ear to ear when your all done

 

Sure would help with loss of power from the drivetrain id think

 

Nobody wants to do it, and I mean nobody. I've looked, and searched... if it was another truck, I'm sure someone would do it, but I guess the demand just isn't there, and they don't want to waste their time on just one truck.

proudhemi: if that's all you really have to do, I'm very surprised it's not well known enough. You'd think there'd be so many people out there wanting it, but I guess not. I was thinking even with my '03 having the seperate units for the tranny and motor that'd it'd be easier, but they still don't seem to care.

 

I think what it comes down to is that for the money there are better options to make the truck faster. Doing the swap right, would probaly cost north of 5-6 grand. You can get our transmissions rebuilt with all of the strongest parts for between 2-3 grand and that's for the absolute top of the line rebuild. I'm still looking for you though, DTW search function is horrible, but I'm sure I can still find the info.

 

Originally posted by proudhemi:
I think what it comes down to is that for the money there are better options to make the truck faster.

Yes your right on that one Proud ..but sometimes it comes down to personal preference not money, some prefer the manual trans over a auto as I do..only reason I got a 2500 It just seems a shame to Have a Hemi with a auto especially with there track record for trannys ..not to mention No need for doing a brake stand when starting a burn out

.and you have more control over the vehicle. I found dodge autos to shift at unexpected times . I bet if the had offered a manual in the 1500 when they first came out the club would be flooded with them . Boss I say go for it man ,Im waiting for a reply from a T-56 conversion company for you..sent them a email no response as yet

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Originally posted by 5SpeedHemi:

Originally posted by proudhemi:
I think what it comes down to is that for the money there are better options to make the truck faster.

Yes your right on that one Proud ..but sometimes it comes down to personal preference not money, some prefer the manual trans over a auto as I do..only reason I got a 2500 It just seems a shame to Have a Hemi with a auto especially with there track record for trannys ..not to mention No need for doing a brake stand when starting a burn out

.and you have more control over the vehicle. I found dodge autos to shift at unexpected times . I bet if the had offered a manual in the 1500 when they first came out the club would be flooded with them . Boss I say go for it man ,Im waiting for a reply from a T-56 conversion company for you..sent them a email no response as yet

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I would way rather have a manual than this POS automatic. But to me my personal preference is not worth 6 grand. If they were offered from the factory with a T-56 you better bet your ass that I'd have one. But I can't see paying that much money for the mod, when there are so many other areas that also need addressed.

I am suprised like the rest, that noone on any of the forums have done this swap. There's people that don't even think twice about spending 20k on mods but don't have this done.

 

I just flat out don't understand why have a HEMI if you don't even have the OPTION of a manual. I don't care what it's in.

Yeah, you can spend $5-6k for the swap, but you also have a perfectly good automatic to sell when yer done. Plus for all the reasons 5speed said, and I would think you would lose a lot less through the driveline. So in essence, yer gaining something over stock right there.

I'd be willing to spend the money on it, cause who else has a 6-speed HEMI truck? If it's done right, I bet resale would be so fast it'd make yer head spin.

Who wouldn't drool over my truck "sport trucked" out, opening the door, and finding a pistol grip shifter in a custom console. I dunno about you guys, but I'd drool rivers and wanna DRIVE the thing. Notice my emphasis on DRIVE.

5speed: I'm with ya also on the way the auto tranny shifts. I don't like it at all really.

 

Originally posted by TheBoss:
I just flat out don't understand why have a HEMI if you don't even have the OPTION of a manual. I don't care what it's in.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">You may wanna ask JamesD they may have that option in 08/09</span>

Yeah, you can spend $5-6k for the swap, but you also have a perfectly good automatic to sell
when yer done.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Never thought about that. cool another reason to get 'er done </span>

This Stan drives only a STAN..dard lol

 

I hear ya Stan. I just couldn't justify going up to a 3/4 ton JUST to have a manual tranny. I know with that big of a truck, I would rather have the CTD.

 

I bet if the had offered a manual in the 1500 when they first came out the club would be flooded with them

I would have got one.

 

Originally posted by TheBoss:
I know with that big of a truck, I would rather have the CTD.

Again personal preference ...fond of the reliability not of the sound

 

Originally posted by Haulin' A:

I bet if the had offered a manual in the 1500 when they first came out the club would be flooded with them

I would have got one.

I would have as well..only I bought a camper trailer shorly there after the 2500 purchase so it all worked out for the best

 

Hey Guys here is a email for a guy who does custom installs of the Trimic T-56 and TKO 600. I talked to him for a bit sounds like he knows what his talking about ..makes me want to convert my NV4500 standard to a TK0600 .He said kits would come in at about 2300.00 delivered to your door includes the tranny,mount and a bunch of other items email him for details ..that price was for the TK0600 the T-56 was 300.00 more. He says the TKO600 way out performs the T-56 by a long shot. Much stronger and more and robust. And he also said Mopar performance had a bell housing coming out or already out for those getting the itch for a manual trans .His name is Brad and here is his e-mail

sales@5speedtransmissions.com


And no Im not affiliated with the 5speed tranny shop in anyway

 

The T-56 is rated for up to 700trq, so I've read, so I'm not to worried about it being the "weaker" of the two. They do make upgraded parts for it already installed, or seperate, designed withstand up to 1000trq.

What does the TKO 600 come out of? What kind of tranny is it? Truck tranny or something you'd get in a sports car? I've driven a few T-56's, they're relatively common in 6-speed sport applications, and I like the gearing ratio's. Unless it's dramatically cheaper for the tranny, I'd have to stick with what I know.

So it's $2300 including the tranny? And it's a bolt on kit?

 

According to Brad, Tremec makes both the TKO600 the T-56, both are considered light duty applications TKO being a little heavier, stronger and will handle more horsepower. The T-56 is used in the viper and Srt10 Currently by Dodge, and the T-56 is also being used in the Chevy Corvette Z06, Ford SVT Mustang Cobra, Aston Martin DB7 Vantage and V12 Vanquish, and Holden Commodore and Monaro. so its not Ram SRT10 and viper specific. He says compared to the TKO600 the T-56 is a truck tranny and shifts like one,with a much longer throw..He goes on to say says the TKO600 is much stronger and nicer shifting that the T-56, Im no tranny expert But I did stay at a Holiday in express last nite

So I really cant quantity that statement .He sells both in kit form, give him a email with your phone number and he will call you back and hopefully he can fill in all the blanks ..I just quickly went over it with him just trying to gleam some info for youI already have a stick.. so I'm already spoiled
Wait ..is that Jay I see coming