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Ok I’m new here but I’m in need of some assistance….. I have recently installed a cam in my truck and I sorta went with a mild cam and I had a tune made for it but I’m really not happy with how the truck is acting. And I’ve contacted the guy and he looked at the data and gave me another tune and it did a lil better but now it’s starting to act up again. So I was wondering if I could send my data and see if they could look it over and either change something or it’s all good….. anyone got someone in mind?
 

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What are the cam specs? Tuning especially with limiting/locking the phaser can take MANY revisions.

Do you have a wideband gauge wired in?
 

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What are the cam specs? Tuning especially with limiting/locking the phaser can take MANY revisions.

Do you have a wideband gauge wired in?
Cam specs are….

Comp cam- Dur. @ .050" 214/233 | Lift .510"/.505" LSA 113

I have a phaser limiter lock on it and deleted the mds. And what is the “wideband gauge”?
 

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That's a CC thumper car cam, far from Mild in a truck(regular cab short box/8 speed?). Best of luck with that one, gonna need a stall and o2 sensor wideband monitoring to be streetable.

Free internet tuning is a large gamble.
 

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That's a CC thumper car cam, far from Mild in a truck(regular cab short box/8 speed?). Best of luck with that one, gonna need a stall/tall gears and o2 sensor wideband monitoring to be streetable.

Free internet tuning is a large gamble.
it’s a 5 speed crew cab. I’ve been running and driving it for 7-8 months probably 20-30k miles so far…. I was looking for more insight on it is all.
 

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I had Hemifever send a tune for me. Everything has been good I’m not knocking him or nothing like that. It just has a hiccup every now and then where it wants to die when slowing down. @Garc
 

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A wideband o2 sensor will give you pre-cat readings on fuel mixture to *display gauge if you have a lean/rich condition at the time of your stalling or sputter to help you and your tuner diagnose. It may be the torque converter locking too soon pulling the motor down since you have such a wide duration, ~2200 RPM stall in your 5 speed FYI.
I'd consider a mild truck cam intake 204-206/ exhaust 220-224 for comparison @ .050", .510 Lift is pretty mild mannered however to keep factory MDS hydraulic lifters.

Do you have long-tube headers? Sean may be backed up, I know Moe's is on hold for backorders due to everything having extended lead times.

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Ram stock 5.7 eagle cam
Automatic 5.7
186/208 (4 lobes are actually 205 on the exhaust for MDS)
499/493 (4 lobes have 486 lift on the exhaust for MDS)
115LSA
103ICL
 

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A wideband o2 sensor will give you pre-cat readings on fuel mixture to *display gauge if you have a lean/rich condition at the time of your stalling or sputter to help you and your tuner diagnose. It may be the torque converter locking too soon pulling the motor down since you have such a wide duration, ~2200 RPM stall in your 5 speed FYI.
I'd consider a mild truck cam intake 204-206/ exhaust 220-224 for comparison @ .050", .510 Lift is pretty mild mannered however to keep factory MDS hydraulic lifters.

Do you have long-tube headers? Sean may be backed up, I know Moe's is on hold for backorders due to everything having extended lead times.

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Ram stock 5.7 eagle cam
Automatic 5.7
186/208 (4 lobes are actually 205 on the exhaust for MDS)
499/493 (4 lobes have 486 lift on the exhaust for MDS)
115LSA
103ICL
I have been looking into upgrading the torque converter but it’s only dying when coming to a stop not while cruising above 25-35. I have upgraded lifters and installed mds plugs to eliminate the mds.
I want to add some headers eventually to the truck in the near future.
 

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What year is the truck ? , that's not a big cam.. it is designed to help the small exhaust vale of the Eagle head to evacuate the spent gasses, .....it doesn't need help.... the lift on that cam is low enough to run it with out the lock,. but you have to keep the desired angle tight between 100 & 115 degrees, that cam also likes to come on later ,(for a Big Crew cab it's fine like you have it.) I spent some time playing with an RC 4x2 in April the bottom image is the setting I went with so the cam would "come in" later and keep the cylinder pressure low ,(less TQ) truck is running 4.88s which help it move it , still has the stock convertor , cool thing about the 14s and newer you, can modify the SRV tables.
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on this truck I lowered the Enable to 3100 so it gets in to "max power" mode quicker just as the NOS kicks in at 3200 RPMs.
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.. I've had to fix a 2010 with that cam that one of the Diablo Pros did , I raised the ECT Min (engine coolant Temp) to 190 degree, the other thing depending on the elevation you live at the "Barometric learning" " Max Delta Throttle " Table needs to be modified just slightly, what works great for the 1000ft and lower crowd , sux for the Mile high crowd.

On my Nephews 09 with the old 5.7 we ran the SRT392 cam, left it unlocked , once in a while it would hunt and sometimes die that fix was Deacceleration offsets, offset B 2-2 Prime, offset A 2 prime-3, offset B 2 prime -3, and the Barometric learning" " Max Delta Throttle table.
 

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What year is the truck ? , that's not a big cam.. it is designed to help the small exhaust vale of the Eagle head to evacuate the spent gasses, .....it doesn't need help.... the lift on that cam is low enough to run it with out the lock,. but you have to keep the desired angle tight between 100 & 115 degrees, that cam also likes to come on later ,(for a Big Crew cab it's fine like you have it.) I spent some time playing with an RC 4x2 in April the bottom image is the setting I went with so the cam would "come in" later and keep the cylinder pressure low ,(less TQ) truck is running 4.88s which help it move it , still has the stock convertor , cool thing about the 14s and newer you, can modify the SRV tables. View attachment 50060 on this truck I lowered the Enable to 3100 so it gets in to "max power" mode quicker just as the NOS kicks in at 3200 RPMs. View attachment 50057 View attachment 50061 .. I've had to fix a 2010 with that cam that one of the Diablo Pros did , I raised the ECT Min (engine coolant Temp) to 190 degree, the other thing depending on the elevation you live at the "Barometric learning" " Max Delta Throttle " Table needs to be modified just slightly, what works great for the 1000ft and lower crowd , sux for the Mile high crowd.

On my Nephews 09 with the old 5.7 we ran the SRT392 cam, left it unlocked , once in a while it would hunt and sometimes die that fix was Deacceleration offsets, offset B 2-2 Prime, offset A 2 prime-3, offset B 2 prime -3, and the Barometric learning" " Max Delta Throttle table.
It’s a 2011 5.7L. The lock is just what the kit came with from AMS racing so I just put it on there bc I thought it needed it. I’m Looking into putting 3.92 gears in or 4.10 I haven’t decided. I figured that would help me a lil on the he low end. I have 3.55’s right now.
Are you a tuning guy @ric3xrt? You seem to know your stuff and I asked Hemifever if he could tune or mess with the shift points but he said trannys are real finicky and that’s not his specialty. And I wish my Diablo i3 would let me do a lil more but it’s limited it seems. But I could be illiterate with it lol.
 

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It’s a 2011 5.7L. The lock is just what the kit came with from AMS racing so I just put it on there bc I thought it needed it. I’m Looking into putting 3.92 gears in or 4.10 I haven’t decided. I figured that would help me a lil on the he low end. I have 3.55’s right now.
Are you a tuning guy @ric3xrt? You seem to know your stuff and I asked Hemifever if he could tune or mess with the shift points but he said trannys are real finicky and that’s not his specialty. And I wish my Diablo i3 would let me do a lil more but it’s limited it seems. But I could be illiterate with it lol.

He's right about the trans, and it's a gray area , there are some cool things you can do with the tuning aspect on the 09+ rams but it's also a gray area, what works for this guy won't work for that guy. raising the max lock pressure from stock 120 to 180 is enough to rattle some people teeth, 190-200 seems to be the breaking point for the stock Valve body but the Moded ones will chirp the tires at 200-210psi and break some U joints (yeap always a downside.)
there is a great write up on HPtuners on how to get the 65 to work well, and as you get newer with the model years there's more tables to work with.

As for Gears , anything is better then the 3.55s, 4.10s is a good start , if your a 50/50 Highway/local guy 4.10s fill the bill nicely, if your a 25/75 Highway/local, 4.56s are great.

I'm more of a "engine" type guy been working on getting better with the tuning aspect , when I get stumped I ask my niece(her 2020 1320 Challenger runs 11:10s on tune alone) or I hit HPtuners forum, she's got a knack for the newer stuff and there is a lot of good info on HP if you are willing to dig and read thru it....it can be very overwhelming at 1st ,but search You-tube there are a few guys who take the time to explain it , I know it took me a few "times" watching before I had my "Ah Ha" moment.....and trust when someone says "Dodge tuning" is it's own world.
I don't know much about Diablo, except it'll let me change the tire size on my 04.
 

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He's right about the trans, and it's a gray area , there are some cool things you can do with the tuning aspect on the 09+ rams but it's also a gray area, what works for this guy won't work for that guy. raising the max lock pressure from stock 120 to 180 is enough to rattle some people teeth, 190-200 seems to be the breaking point for the stock Valve body but the Moded ones will chirp the tires at 200-210psi and break some U joints (yeap always a downside.)
there is a great write up on HPtuners on how to get the 65 to work well, and as you get newer with the model years there's more tables to work with.

As for Gears , anything is better then the 3.55s, 4.10s is a good start , if your a 50/50 Highway/local guy 4.10s fill the bill nicely, if your a 25/75 Highway/local, 4.56s are great.

I'm more of a "engine" type guy been working on getting better with the tuning aspect , when I get stumped I ask my niece(her 2020 1320 Challenger runs 11:10s on tune alone) or I hit HPtuners forum, she's got a knack for the newer stuff and there is a lot of good info on HP if you are willing to dig and read thru it....it can be very overwhelming at 1st ,but search You-tube there are a few guys who take the time to explain it , I know it took me a few "times" watching before I had my "Ah Ha" moment.....and trust when someone says "Dodge tuning" is it's own world.
I don't know much about Diablo, except it'll let me change the tire size on my 04.
I have been talking with a local shop to see about boosting the pressure up some but have been skeptical just bc I have read if you go to much it will mess up the tranny…. So is the stock pressure 120? So if I went 150-160 I should be good right? I feel like it needs something I just don’t know what. Called a guy about rebuilding the tranny and he gave off a list and he did say something about a tuneless build and boost the pressure up to 200 and do a upgraded valve body and some other for $5200🥴🥴…… that’s probably acurate but that’s a lot of chedda atm for me so if I can get around a bit to get by to save up some then I will get it built next year or sometime soon.
If I was to send you a log could you look it over and see if you spot anything you would change or you just don’t mess with Diablo tuners period? Any input would help. I messaged Hemifever to ask about the downstream o2 sensors if he had them off but he won’t respond…
 

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About his Non response, the EPA is hounding and hammering a lot of the bigger name tuner people, I'm in very tight with a Ford guy here in Pa, I built the BAE based Hemi in his "outlaw" 2014 mustang, he did all the set up on my late stepfather's 99 and 01 Lightings he was hit recently with low 6 figure fines, and I know of two Hellcat specialist that are in some serious crap right now....so I would take his non response as more of a cautious thing then anything else.

Back to the trans, yeap 120 is stock pressure, I run the work trucks at 180 with several 10s of thousands miles on them, 160 is a good starting point, might even tone it down to 150ish, like I said it's a gray area with a lot of folks. a good trans Cooler and spend the money for a good convertor , the cheaper guys have a tendency to run hot , and the 65 hates heat..... A Revmax Bonded separator plate goes a LONG way in helping the 65 live and preform well , sonax has some good parts for the 65 which help it.

I have no way to read Diablo logs.
 
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