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5.7/6.1 Hemi Low-Temp Thermostat Info

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Here's some info to help with finding & choosing a 2003-2012 5.7L / 6.1L Hemi low-temp thermostat:

The stock t-stat is a 2-stage design, but it can be replaced with a regular single-stage t-stat. I asked both a Dodge dealer tech and a Hemi hotline tech about using a single-stage stat in a 5.7L or 6.1L Hemi and they both said it would work good and be safe, no potential engine damage.

The downside of a single-stage t-stat is the heater takes longer to warm up.

The port the stat fits in is deep, so either a short or tall stat will fit. The stock gasket is re-usable if the stock t-stat is removed carefully.

T-stats for 1971-1978 Dodge 360-440cid engines will fit 2003-2008 5.7 & 6.1 Hemi's, so you can go to any auto parts store: Autozone, Napa, Carquest, Summit, Jeg's, etc., or performance manufacturers like Milodon, Jet, Mr. Gasket, etc. & ask for a thermostat that fits a 1971-1978 Dodge 360-440cid engine.

These thermostats will fit 2003-2010 5.7 & 6.1 Hemi's:

195*F T-Stats:
Carquest 195*: cq-30239
Summit 195*: sum-360196
Be Cool 195*: bci-78008
Napa 195*: THM-532060

190*F 2-Stage T-Stat
Stant 190*: #48799

180*F 2-Stage T-Stats:
Jet 180*: JET-10183
Napa 180*: THM455778
Stant 180*: #14168; You will have to grind this t-stat down about 1mm so it will fit right.

180*F T-Stats:
Carquest 180*: cq-30238
Milodon 180*: mil-16406
Mr. Gasket 180*: mrg-4367
Napa 180*: THM-291
Summit brand 180* stat: sum-360181
Mopar 180*: dcc-4876307
Be Cool 180* stat: bci-78007

The 1st low-temp t-stat in my Hemi was a CQ 160*F. I switched from the CQ 160* to a Milodon 160* because the Milodon is better quality: thicker material and better design. A 160* t-stat will throw a P0128 code every few days, so you should not get one unless you have a tuner to read and clear codes. 180* stats usually do not throw codes.

12/30/2006: switched from Milodon 160* to a Milodon 180* because the 160* is too cold. a 180* t-stat is about as low-temp as you can go without causing excessive engine wear. see article:
http://performanceunlimited.co...ons/thermostats.html


If you still want to put a 160*F t-stat in your Hemi after reading the article in the link above, here are some 160*F t-stat Part Numbers:

160*F T-Stats:
Be Cool 160*: bci-78006
Carquest 160*: cq-30236
Milodon 160*: mil-16405
Mr. Gasket 160*: mrg-4366
Napa 160*: THM-191

1/10/2010:
switched to a Jet 180* thermostat: JET-10183 in July '09. My engine ran cooler with the Milodon 180*, but it reaches operating temp quicker with the Jet. I have had NO P0128 codes with the Jet t-stat at all.

for those who don't know, taking too long to warm up will trip a P0128, just like not reaching a high enough temp will throw a P0128.

also, the heater gets warm WAY sooner with the Jet 180*: about 2 miles vs. 5 -6 miles to get the heater warm with the Milodon 180*.

My 2 cents:
a stock-style 2-stage design thermostat is best for a street truck.

single-stage high-flow, balanced-flow design t-stats like Milodon 180*: mil-16406 & Mr. Gasket 180*: mrg-4367 are great for keeping race trucks cool.

side note:
a Diablo or SCT custom tune can be written to tell the PCM that a longer warm-up & lower operating temp are o.k., so a Milodon 180*: mil-16406 or Mr. Gasket 180*: mrg-4367 or Milodon 160*: mil-16405 or Mr. Gasket 160*: mrg-4366 would not cause P0128 codes.
 
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You're welcome! I hope a lot of people find this info helpful.
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#88 ·
Did find this very helpful! Went with the carquest 180, it's made by stant. Also, for reference, any 63 mm thermostat should fit. Didn't see where that was mentioned anywhere. Thanks again!
 
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update:

2009 & 2010 Hemi's take the same thermostats as '03 - '08, so all the info I posted above applies to choosing a t-stat for an '09 or '10 Hemi too.

these t-stats could also be used with one of the AWESOME Aluminum Hemi blocks that should be available soon, since they use standard car or truck front covers, water pump, etc.
 
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Originally posted by megahemi06:
I was thinking of changing mine. Thanks for the info.
you're welcome! hope I posted enough info for you to make an informed decision on which t-stat to choose.
 
#13 ·
Thanks Bob!

been meaning to call you. been busy. one thing has been diagnosing and fixing a surge on my '05. looks like some of the changes that improve performance on mildly modded trucks in canned tunes may not work well on more heavily modded trucks........
 
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A good compromise is the Stant # 14349. It's 190 degrees.
 
#20 ·
Factory is 203 from what I've read.

Will there be a performance increase from dropping the temp? Mileage?
 
#23 ·
Will there be a performance increase from dropping the temp? Mileage?
Let me put it this way, the factory has changed from a 203, to a 190.
 
#24 ·
Originally posted by azhemi:
Dave, Per your recommendation, a stock 2 stage 180* t-stat would be best for my truck. Now, temp wise, what comes from the factory?
203* on Gen III Hemi Rams, and 190 or 195* on Gen IV.
 
#25 ·
Originally posted by NewBlue:
Will there be a performance increase from dropping the temp? Mileage?
usually there is small performance increase, cooler engine can take a little more spark and cooler engine temp can make a/f slightly richer. small refinement, and when you add 5 rwhp here, 10 rwhp there, it adds up.

MPG will be same as stock at best, and some have lost MPG with a cooler stat. only checked mine a couple times after 180* stat and my truck did same as stock once and lost 1 mpg on the other test.

I've seen a few posts about losing 3-4 mpg with a cooler stat. only way to know how it will affect your truck is to try it.
 
#26 ·
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll add a new stat to the list!