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Old 06-30-2014, 07:09 AM   #1
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What not even a good chirp?

Hi All,

I had a disappointing day last Friday. My uncle has a 2003 Cummins diesel . He took my 1500 hemi for a ride and we could not even get the fool thing to chirp . I was like "REALLY!" His diesel could break 'em loose in a heart beat. Talk about embarrassing! Is there a way to get the @#$%^&*()*&^%$#@ nannies off, or get that hemi to wake up without voiding my warranty? I ask because I have a 76000 mile bumper to bumper and I really don't want to compromise that.
Come on all you hot rodders help a fellow Hemi owner out.

Thanks in advance,

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Old 06-30-2014, 07:43 AM   #2
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Find a wet spot....
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4.56 gears and you should be able to get some tire noise or a wet spot lol.

A little NOS will Deff do it. A cam but your mpg may go down unless tuned. Stroker motor with a blower 4:10 gears and you can leave 2 full gears of rubber down lol!

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Biggest thing is it will cost a bit to get a decent amount of tire spin.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:55 AM   #4
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Those diesels have a LOT of torque...and that's even before you turn up their wick with tuning .
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dumb question maybe but did you turn off traction control? all else fails pull the abs fuse
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Depending on how much money you want to spend. If you have bottomless pockets, you can lay down a double black stripe for 'bout as long as you want. Then there is that whole warranty thing . Mine will lay down a thirty-foot double-line with a bit of hip-wiggle, and it has nothing but a CAI and Magnaflow SIDOs (no nannies, either, fortunately).
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Those diesels have a LOT of torque...and that's even before you turn up their wick with tuning .
A lot of torque readily available much earlier than gas engines to boot.

Money is always the deciding factor, you can get factory 4.10s that can still be warranty endorsed if installed by Chrysler but expect a $2500-3500 bill.
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Hi All,

So what I am hearing is 1) a Diesel should act more like a hemi than a hemi does because of the bottom end torque. I am OK with the diesel having a ton of torque. BUT that does in no way excuse the fact that a 2003 Sebring with a 6 cylinder can do a way more impressive burnout than a 395 hp hemi. And lets not get into the weight thing because that Sebring weighed some 3300 pounds with a 4 speed auto at 200 hp verses a 5300 pound truck with a 395 hp 407 ft lb of torque hemi and six speed tranny.
2) I feel like I'm hearing that's OK that this truck can't even do a little tire spin. I am wondering if this is a nanny or maybe some over inflated numbers. I may not be a math whiz but that much power pumping through a set of 3:55 gears ought to break 'em loose in a heart beat. BTW the higher the ratio 3:92, 4:10 the harder it is to break them loose. Also the 70 Cuda TA, 340 sixpack, 383 and some 440 cars were equipped with factory 3:55's so don't be sounding like this is a highway gear 'cause it ain't. If it was I could probably smoke the belts right out of those tires. I am not looking for AA/F burnout, but geez at least a little spin. I mean it is plum embarrassing that it can't even chirp them.
And yes TCS was off and trans in tow/haul mode.
Don't get me wrong still love this truck but does make it kinda hard to brag on that hemi when a stock civic does a better burn out than you do.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:02 PM   #9
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A higher gear ratio rear end will most certainly help break the tires loose. Going from 3:55 to 4:10 will pretty much turn 3rd gear into 2nd gear....it'll definitely wake it up in the get-up-n-go department. Wheel slip is also affected by weight on the tires too though. You've got the short wheel base which shifts the center of gravity back and a topper which adds weight too. Having the spare tire under the back adds weight and anything in the box also adds weight.

My '06 has factory lsd 4:10s, is completely stock minus the muffler so it has less hp than your 4th gen and is a 2500 4x4 with a long box so it's quite a bit heavier overall(6,285# with me in the seat and 1/2 load of fuel) and mine will spin em pretty hard in 3rd on wet pavement. Like clutch out, going nice and then lay on it and it'll break the back end loose. I can do that in 2nd gear on dry but it really throws ya back and I run out of rpms pretty quick. I'm not quite understanding how this is an issue when you've got a lighter truck and more hp....Unless the tcm torque management still dumbs it down when the traction control is off??? maybe?
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Just turning tc off I don't think fully eliminates it
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