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Old 06-10-2017, 06:30 PM   #1
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Starting cam swap, what else to upgrade?

I'm slowly assembling all my cam parts to do the switch. I'm working on a 2003 5.7 with 150,000 miles on it. I'm gonna try to do the e-fan swap and dropping in a 185 thermostat. I'm considering pulling the engine while I'm at it and taking care of any problems while I'm at it. What other parts should I replace? Piston rings, oil pumps, etc.? I do know about changing all the valvetrain out. Im gonna check prices on porting the heads, depends on how exspensive that is. Has anyone ported their own heads?

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Old 06-10-2017, 07:09 PM   #2
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You can get rebuilt heads on ebay for like 450, at the very least throw a set of those on, even if you don't have them worked. Timing chain, rings, bearings, oil pump, gaskets & seals etc., water pump....that's if you're doing the block too. I'm sure I probably left something obvious out.
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If your gonna do the engine pull method might as well do a stroker or stronger internals. For a simple cam swap valvetrain upgrade and the cam will be fine for a good bit unless your wanting to dig deeper. If you pull the rockers out and the stems of the valves look worn down/close to retainers then new valves is suggested and might as well get some good heads while there.
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I don't have the money for a stroker kit, wish I did. I gotta draw the line somewhere haha.
I already had the heads machined and valve job done when I blew a head gasket last fall, so those are fine. I'll probably do the timing stuff, check out the pistons.
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Ok then heads are good change the springs. Put a new 2005/6.1 oil pump in it and a new timing chain and your good to go along with new timing cover seals and water pump seals better to not reuse anything in this area.
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Ok then heads are good change the springs. Put a new 2005/6.1 oil pump in it and a new timing chain and your good to go along with new timing cover seals and water pump seals better to not reuse anything in this area.
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Ok then heads are good change the springs. Put a new 2005/6.1 oil pump in it and a new timing chain and your good to go along with new timing cover seals and water pump seals better to not reuse anything in this area.
What's the deal with the 6.1 oil pump? Is it that much better than the stock 5.7L one? Direct bolt-on replacement for the 5.7 one?

Recommendations on the timing chain? Looking at 3rdStirkePerformance page and they have 3 different timing chain sets. Any preference one way or the other on any of those? 5.7L and 6.1L HEMI Timing Components

I'm kind of jumping onto the tails of this thread instead of starting my own since I am starting to plan for the same, or at least similar work on my truck.

Mine is a 2004 (9/2003 build date) that currently has 191,000 miles on it and runs fantastic. I've had zero issues with the motor since I bought the truck 9 years ago with only 48,000 miles on it then. This is an almost daily driven truck. I say almost because I also ride motorcycles and do that more often than driving but the truck is driven at least every weekend and used to commute when it's raining. It also hauls motorcycles 4 to 5 hours one way out to my favorite race track (road course).

I want to retain the reliability that I have had with the truck up to now and also retain the daily driving ability while still bumping up the performance a bit. So I was thinking that the Comp 260 or similar cam would be a nice upgrade and also be a good time to take care of some of the wear parts like the valve springs, timing chain, oil pump and water pump.

Any input and thoughts on my project as I plan it are welcome.

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For whats it worth im using Manley pump and timing spockets without issue, spinning them pretty tight.
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For whats it worth im using Manley pump and timing spockets without issue, spinning them pretty tight.
Yeah, I figured the Manley stuff would be good but at $229 for the kit, it's pricey as compared to the other kits on that page. But, you gotta pay for quality sometimes.
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