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My last update in 2017 in this forum I was doing a 5.7 Procharged set up. Well a lot has changed for those who don’t know.

I have a aluminum 468, 2” primary custom made header, 90mm TB, Thitek Heads ported by Frankenstein Engine dynamics, e85, Holly dominator EFI, 4l80, trans brake. Hoping for low low 10s or maybe squeeze a 9.9999 NA
 

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Same here man! **** get yours done also and go out surprising a lot of those ford and Silverado with some mean *** 3rd gens. I want to put that wing so bad but can’t find one. OG bee and Daytona tearing up the streets
 
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You have a beautiful truck! It isn't easy to built a badass truck and I wish you success at the track...
 
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2020 should be the year of the 3rd Gen.
 
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Also damn near everything I got. Ew ended up getting pained or coated. So yes I enjoy buying stuff for it and not driving it
 
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You might rethink using a booster.. your engine will be low on vacuum and no need to add a remote vacuum pump if you use a hydroboost which will give you better braking even with small brakes.
 
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I did the same thing with my 2004 Ram 1500 QCSB. I bought it not running for $900.00 and planned to use it as parts runner. Well, needless to say that went out of the window real quick. As I was repairing the 5.7 from what the previous tool owners did to it I thought to myself, "I can't have a stock motor." And then it was off to the races with parts I had collected.

@LETHAL HEMI, that is a sharp looking truck brother. Nice work. I built the engine/trans/driveline first. I'm going to swap in a set of 4th Gen seats and ditch the column shifter in favor of a TCI Outlaw-X.
 
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We talk about dope heads but this is the same addiction 😂.

Thanks man I’m doing the same same shifter. What all you have for the 3rd gen hemi motor? There are time I wish I had more money and get me a daytona QC and slap the 468 in it to take my 2 boys with me. So instead I bought kook LT and Tune for the 4th gen 8 speed and maybe a cam this summer. 😂 the addiction
 

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Yeah buddy!! I saw a post earlier on another forum that said 2020 was going to be the year of the 3rd Gens and I wholeheartedly agree. There have been a ton of fast and good looking 3rd Gens coming out of the woodwork lately and it is awesome. I have two 3rd Gen's and a 4th Gen but I am partial to the 3rd Gen trucks. The bodies are sleek and the interiors are simple but functional. The 06-08 Dr instrument panel was such a huge improvement over the 02-05 in my opinion.

My plans for the 2004 is to finish the suspension and roll cage and go racing. Cant wait to see what everyone else comes out with this year. Let the wrenches fly!!
 

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Just some more random truck porn pictures I have.
Those are the 2” headers I got custom made for mine. KooK make 2” primaries for 4th now and I believe efrain with the rumble bee going to try a set for the 3rd gen.
 

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Nicely done... good luck on the dyno..
 
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Thanks brother. I have the A/F Ratio pretty rich right now at about 11.9-12.0 along with a timing curve that's not too hot because I didn't have any good gas with me to mix in. I drove the truck all last week and this week so far with 104 No-Lead in it and when I hit the Dyno tomorrow night I will have a VP110 in it for the Dyno pulls. As long as I can get the tune cleaned up I'll be able to add in some more aggressive timing. I think I can hit the 425rwhp mark this time and go 12.90's.

The other thing I am working on right now for this truck is a 6.1 w/ a set of 6.4 Apache Heads using a port matched 6.1 Aluminum intake manifold. I don't have the rest of the combo sorted out but it's looking pretty good so far. I am building this thing to make somewhere in the neighborhood of 600hp. That should make for a fun grocery getter and scare the kids at my son's school with a Choppy McChop Chop cam.
 
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Looking forward to see what this 7.0 can do. Hopefully I will have mine running soon as well. So at what point do we need to start running 2” primary headers?
 
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There are a lot of things that come in to play when trying to decide on a primary size. How heavy is the vehicle? Camshaft? Torque converter? What RPM does peak torque occur? Plus some other things.

Longer primary tubes produce more torque before the peak. Torque will then fall off after the peak.
Shorter primary tubes produce more torque after the peak. However, this means less torque before the peak.
This is why full-length headers provide more low-end power than a set of shorty headers.

Larger diameter primaries will shift the torque peak higher in the rpm range.
Smaller diameter primaries will shift the torque peak lower in the rpm range.
If your primary tubes are too small, they restrict airflow and rob the engine of power. If your primary tubes are too big, they will shift the torque peak too high in the rpm range to take full advantage of.

On a boosted motor equal length primaries are not much of a concern. You are pushing so much air into the motor that you want to get it out as fast as possible while still scavenging the cylinder during the valve overlap period to remove the leftover exhaust gases before the intake charge occurs. When this happens we can make more power instead of having the remaining gases mixed with a fresh charge of intake air.

With a large tube primary like a 2" vs. a 1⅞", the peak torque will occur later in the RPM range vs. the 1⅞. On a heavy truck that is naturally aspirated it can affect the ability to get the truck out of the hole. With a blown motor and depending on how much much boost is being created a heavy, big cubic inch truck can benefit from the change in the torque curve because it will allow you to launch at a higher RPM on good tires without going up in smoke since we have less unsprung weight over the rear tires.
 
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A few years ago I built a 3" true duals using a "H" pipe aero3030 mufflers. It was a loud sob and developed a low end stumble we could not tune out. You guys seem to be on your game but thought I'd mention it anyway. Went back to a 3" Y pipe and single muffler and low end came back. Our hemi's can be fickle at times it seems.
This how it is now..
 

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Did the low in stumble occur on your current 6.4 setup? You're right about the hemi in that it can be finicky. There are just some things the Gen 3 hemi does not like. So far with the big cubic inch gen 3 hemi I have built I have not had any issues like what yours was with the stumble.

If I was going to be doing a ton of street driving where the low end torque is more necessary I would use the odball 2⅞" exhaust pipe with a 3.0" muffler. That way you we would not run into over-scavenging the cylinders and have just a touch of backpressure. Exhaust changes like this is the reason I make everything in the slip-on/bolt-in fashion.
 
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Yes it was the current engine with I think 8 pounds of boost using the old SC on a serpentine belt. It was dialed in using diable (05 pcm) i wanted to experiment thinking more flow would be better. Some others said it would be problematic, but I have also seen others with true duals that looked to run good. Anyway my from my experience it was a failure. My recommendation is have everything dialed in was no issues. Then change only the exhaust and try to dial it back in.. and see how it does..
 
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I totally agree with getting it dialed in with the current exhaust if possible and then making exhaust changes only. Normally when the exhaust gets too big cylinder over-scavenging can occur. When this happens, the richest portion of the intake charge exits with the remaining exhaust. When this happens we will see a spike in the A/F Ratio and then back to the desired A/F Ratio. It will make your wideband look like it's going crazy because it happens so fast.

Do you guys have easy access to a Dyno to where you can make changes and then make some pulls to see the effects?
 
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I am using a 2005 manual trans pcm and HP Tuning. I'm planning on using Megasquit on the Willys.
 
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Nice brother. I traded a pair of 6.1 heads that I had prepped for another motor for a MegaSuirt3 Gold Hemi setup with the wiring harness. I am switching this 2004 of mine from the 2005 PCM that I just installed over to the MS3 Gold in a couple of weeks. I've been wanting to run an MS3 for quite some time.

The shop I lease here in Texas belonged to an old performance shop for Ford Mustangs and Ford trucks. They had just had a Dynojet installed before they closed up shop. They left almost all of the equipment behind and it became mine as part of the lease. I got pretty lucky.
 
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That indeed is a sweet setup! I can't help but think having access to a dyno would be alot of fun... well done!
 
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Lemme tell ya it is alot of fun. I have run everything I can on the dyno from my zero turn lawnmower, my wifes Volvo XC60 to Pit Bikes and anything I cna strap down. I saw a "For Lease" sign out one day by the road and didnt know which building it was talking about. I drove around back and found it to be the old Ford shop and when I saw what was coming with it I made the deal over the phone. I pay a little bit higher price for the lease than my old shop but I have 5 more bays plus lifts and a dyno and extra equipment that I didnt have to buy so it is well worth the extra cost.
 
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That's a super deal! Good luck with your business..
Do you have any fabrication experience with mustang ll suspensions?
 
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Yes, I'd be interested in a flange to flange kit. If you are interested in building a kit I'll pm you my cell number and we can sort it out..
 
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Thanks guys. It has been a rough few days. I'll be back turning wrenches on these HEMI's in a day or so. I just brought in a new project today too.

I'm taking a complete 2015 RAM 1500 powertrain and putting it into a 2002 Ram 1500 RCSB. The customer bought a wrecked 2015 donor truck and wants to put as much of the 2015 in the 2002. Interior and all. I told him I'd have to do some hands on research to see if I could make the instrument panel fit and look good at the same time. I might have to start watching the YouTube videos from a guy named "Stitched by Slick". He does some pretty wild swaps.
 
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Just use the whole dash it'll fit.
 
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Will you back half the 02 frame?
 
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@ric3xrt, the customer wants to back-half the truck.

@redtruck-VA, I do intend to use the entire instrument panel. I have done the swap a couple of times. This customer of mine is somewhat of a perfectionist. I want to make sure that I can retrofit the entire interior to include the instrument panel, kick panels, A-Pillar trim, door panels, sill panels, etc.

I know I can make it work. My customer has given me a $15,000 budget to start with so I am going to do the interior and wiring first and then move to the drivetrain. It should make for a really cool project. The owner wants to VLOG the entire build and Im cool with that.
 
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