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Old 02-29-2008, 10:13 PM   #71
 
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Heath! I just talked to a few gm gurus.....


It seems there are some zo6's dynoing more than 500 hp at the wheels, which means they are making way more crank horsepower. This explains the 10.90 passes........Gm is being Cheeky ...but not necessarily lying about 505 hp.

If I was a zr1 owner...I'd be pissed over this, because they are not much faster than the zo6's

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Old 02-29-2008, 10:14 PM   #72
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the C6 Z06 is a bone stock mid 12 second car with almost any driver, at ANY track. Add drag radials, a good tune, and the right weather it is easily a low 11s, high 10s car. Dollar for performance ratio, it is hard to beat. PERIOD. Generally the guys that get to own them, hardly ever DRIVE them to their fullest potential.
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Phil....the Z06 clocked at 10.98 seconds/128mph was verified by the track manager with factory stock tires, and again verified at 10.83/130mph with Drag radials. This apparently does not apply to all Z06's.....just the lucky owners who got the cars with extra punch

It's not the first time radical cars have come from GM...in the 90's there were about 50 or so camaros that escaped the assembly line with corvette lt1's instead of camaro lt1's

go back in time a little further, and the original 426 hemi's were rated at 425 hp, where in fact they produced over 600hp

at the same time GM had rated the 1970 chevelle ss LS6 454 at 450 hp.....and it actually made just under 500hp
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:02 AM   #74
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Mr. Aflek,That's why I try not to read too much into manufacturers specs (sorry I couldn't resist). You never know if they're underrating, overating, etc. What was it back in 99 ford rated the cobras at 305hp, and in fact they weren't making anymore power than GT's. That was a costly mistake after the class action suit.LOL

It seems like I remember that all of the LS7's are assembled by the same person, so that "should" make them perform similar. I think that 10 sec vette was mainly because of the driver and weather conditions. Out of curiosity I wonder what he could get the new vipers, and the ZR1's to run in similar weather???
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What happened to people posting their dream rides? This turned into the Corvette debate thread.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:12 AM   #76
 
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Mr. Aflek,That's why I try not to read too much into manufacturers specs (sorry I couldn't resist).

no worries!
I just knew it couldn't be done with 500 crank horsepower. So it was either driver BS...or motor BS. I had to find out either way. It was buggin me all day .

The only way to find out what the new zr1's and vipers are capable of is to get them on a dyno. If they're pullin 600 ponies on a chassis dyno, then we know they're playin games
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:17 PM   #78
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quote:The ZR1 should walk all over that viper, for the same price. Just stirrin the pot
Yeah, just throw a blower on the Viper then.....
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Yeah, just throw a blower on the Viper then.....
Or delete a full liter off of the viper's motor...
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Corvette Gran Sport, either model.....
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