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Old 08-05-2018, 12:57 PM   #1
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Torsion bars vs coilovers

What are advantages or drawbacks of the old torsion bar setup? I have them on my 4x4 truck. I noticed it seems to be a system specific to 4wd, is that because of clearance issues with the front drive axles? Iím considering changing to coils to save some weight. The bars themselves are 40-50lbs a piece and also with the extra cross braces. I would also like to know if the ride quality is better with the coilover setup. A 2wd swap is looking really good to me...

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Old 08-05-2018, 06:55 PM   #2
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I like the idea. Might even beable to use a robust version of the shock mount for mounting the coilovers.
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:13 PM   #3
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For those of you that aren't "blessed" with the extra weight and drag of a 4wd...here are some pics so you know what I'm working with in stock form. What I'm unsure of is if it could be a simple as removing the torsion bar and beefing up the stock shock with a coilover. But since the shock is on the front edge of the control arm instead of the middle like a 2wd, if that will throw the balance or applied force off
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Looks pretty busy around the shock. What is the actual clearance at the closest point to the shock?
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The truck is currently down at my parents garage right now, I’ll measure when I go over there next. I plan on rebuilding the front end this week so I’ll look at it real close
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Here is way you might make it doable by using a cantilever. The picture is billet peces but steel could be substituted with the coilovers mounted horizontally on top of the frame.
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:11 PM   #7
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Wow that’s crazy!
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:29 PM   #8
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You would lose the T-bar and shock. A single rod mounted in place of the shock would have plenty of clearance. Cantilever would mount to the frame along with the coilovers providing suspension support.
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It would be way to crazy to try that and I would not rely on that one bolt to hold the full weight of the front end. Might just be easier to swap the front end over and convert it to 2006 style strut front suspension
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Keith, you need to stop thinking truck and start thinking hot rod.....
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