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Old 12-02-2012, 11:17 PM   #1
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So i realize that when our HEMI's are upgraded performance wise a lot of people run into problems. I have not ram into problems... Even stock i did not run into problems. I had 73000 miles on mine before i did modifications and had no problems. I'm now at 78,000 miles putting modifications in it. I still have not ran into any problems. Do you fellow hemi riders think its the shop that installs and tunes the vehicle that makes these happen? [email protected] motorsports has done install and modifications for the Paulie production Jeep and the guy that owns that Jeep has had no problems. I know its a big rant but do any of you run into problems aster upgrades? And do you think its the shop or the driver not taking care of the vehicle that causes these problems?

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:17 PM   #2
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So i realize that when our HEMI's are upgraded performance wise a lot of people run into problems. I have not ram into problems... Even stock i did not run into problems. I had 73000 miles on mine before i did modifications and had no problems. I'm now at 78,000 miles putting modifications in it. I still have not ran into any problems. Do you fellow hemi riders think its the shop that installs and tunes the vehicle that makes these happen? [email protected] motorsports has done install and modifications for the Paulie production Jeep and the guy that owns that Jeep has had no problems. I know its a big rant but do any of you run into problems aster upgrades? And do you think its the shop or the driver not taking care of the vehicle that causes these problems?
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:21 AM   #3
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IMO, the term "upgrade" is misleading when increasing vehicles performance. You are actually modifying the vehicle original engineered specification to perform a specific task at a higher level than it was originally designed for. This leads to over stressing other parts of the vehicle not designed to handle that level of power or stress. Most vehicles can handle a 20-30% without a lot of problems. But even those gains add stress to engine components, transmission, drivetrain and cooling system requiring more frequent maintenance and inspections. If the modifications are not well engineered then problems occur quickly indicating weakness of components or poor quality unsuitable parts used. Regardless no matter how well the modification are made the vehicle is seldom is reliable as it was stock. It takes a lot more than simply throwing parts at a vehicle to make a nice ride. It's a long process and takes a lot of money and research to build exceptionally fast rides. Good luck or as one guy says Fast, Cheap, Reliable. Pick two....
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:52 AM   #4
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Good explanation.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #5
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Good explanation.

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Very well said Greg and just the way I feel.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:12 AM   #7
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Originally posted by Redtruck-VA:
IMO, the term "upgrade" is misleading when increasing vehicles performance. You are actually modifying the vehicle original engineered specification to perform a specific task at a higher level than it was originally designed for. This leads to over stressing other parts of the vehicle not designed to handle that level of power or stress. Most vehicles can handle a 20-30% without a lot of problems. But even those gains add stress to engine components, transmission, drivetrain and cooling system requiring more frequent maintenance and inspections. If the modifications are not well engineered then problems occur quickly indicating weakness of components or poor quality unsuitable parts used. Regardless no matter how well the modification are made the vehicle is seldom is reliable as it was stock. It takes a lot more than simply throwing parts at a vehicle to make a nice ride. It's a long process and takes a lot of money and research to build exceptionally fast rides. Good luck or as one guy says Fast, Cheap, Reliable. Pick two....
well i think that cleared it up, i wish i could go cheap and reliable..... but i have to go fast and reliable..... it has cost me a lot of money, so there is only partial suspension, axels, gas tank, oil pan, battery, and cooling system to upgrade now, i think i am done with upgrades maybe next year for christmas when people ask me what i want for christmas ill ask for a stronger rear axel. But well said redtruck-VA it makes more sense now and thank you for the explination.. sorry I have been busy packing, moving to michigan so I have not had any time to get on the forum to respond...
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:44 AM   #8
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When i was young, Bigger, better, Faster, More was all that mattered.

But here I am in my twilight years and 'fast is but a distant memory" and "Reliable" is a contridiction of terms when coupled with miles covered. I just want to get into my truck and get where I want to go and how long it takes is not important.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:19 AM   #9
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Tui, you are depressing me. I'm pretty confident I'm older than you by at least a few years if not a lot more. I still got plenty of go fast toys, although I admit I certainly don't drive/ride them with the abandonment I once did. But there is nothing like pulling away from a light and being able to haze the tires. My grown kids don't understand and the wife just shakes her head knowing I'll never change. But I'm more realistic these days and besides I promised the wife I'd sell the hot boat and my custom built Moto Guzzi V10 Centauro. The others bikes I'll keep for awhile... need for speed... lol
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:11 AM   #10
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Going fast and cheap Deff don't agree with each other or at least not for long it usually ends badly I am only 26 myself and fortunately have a nice job and I wait till I can afford the good stuff when it comes to transferring power I do some of my own mods when I can but most people don't have the experience or knowledge to do there own stuff just remember its better and cheaper to do it right the first time and one time
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