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Old 02-19-2015, 05:57 PM   #1
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Challenger 6.1 vs 6.4....what would you do?

Okay, so I posted this on the Challenger forum, but they don't seem to be nearly as vocal or open opinionated as we do here which is a bummer from my standpoint. So I will just copy/paste it here and see what you guys think. Plus the head count here is way higher, so that should help.....

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Okay, so I am a long time dreamer of an SRT8. Going to be my hobby car not soon enough, but I am always torn between the 6.1 and the 6.4. Before I start, please understand I do not intend this to be a debate over which is better and badder, etc. I know that both these are badass engines but want to narrow down the pros/cons of each with performance mods, etc. to make my decision easier.

I have always been a 6.1 fan due to the fact that they are non MDS motors. MDS just turns me off to some degree as I am not into the "fluff" of mpg savings gadgetry and the like. Also, maybe leaning towards a shorter stroke motor for possible future forced induction would be a better "long term" option? Thoughts? That's about it for the 6.1.

Now the 6.4. What do I like about it? uh.....392....nuff said? Like I mentioned the mds is a little bit of a turn off, but it's a 392....HEMI......Also, I have read that they handle boost very well in the 10lb range but over that may take some additional thought. But, I don't need a 9 second car. If I was running with Hellcats, I would be more than wetting myself.....lol. As I have drove a Hellcat and that is more than enough in my opinion.

So, again, I know there are benefits to each, and I just want to know what I am looking at getting and lock it in. I hate going back and forth with well, maybe a 6.4, but the 6.1....but the 6.4.....so that is the purpose for this post. My plans for one are nothing off the chart, but intake, full header back exhaust, suspension, wheels, blah, blah.....but then possibly forced induction......probably forced induction....haha. So I want to start with the right car. Thanks!

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Well if you don't want the mds then go with the 6.1 and stroke it to a 6.4 will be very strong. You would be able to do anything you wanted without cam limitations. IMO an non mds base is the way to go for fun toys.

Don't get me wrong I had a 2013 superbee 6.4 and that thing was a blast to drive. Granted almost every things costs twice as much die to mds.
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See, this is the kind of stuff I want to know.....I knew I would get answers on here. I posted this on the Chally forum 3 or 4 days ago and nothin.... What all is involved exactly in a stroke? Just a crank? or what about a bore? I know that involves pistons/rings, but whats the pros/cons? I had those concerns with MDS. Guess I was right.
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Okay, so I posted this on the Challenger forum, but they don't seem to be nearly as vocal or open opinionated as we do here which is a bummer from my standpoint. So I will just copy/paste it here and see what you guys think. Plus the head count here is way higher, so that should help.....

As posted on Challenger forum...
Okay, so I am a long time dreamer of an SRT8. Going to be my hobby car not soon enough, but I am always torn between the 6.1 and the 6.4. Before I start, please understand I do not intend this to be a debate over which is better and badder, etc. I know that both these are badass engines but want to narrow down the pros/cons of each with performance mods, etc. to make my decision easier.

I have always been a 6.1 fan due to the fact that they are non MDS motors. MDS just turns me off to some degree as I am not into the "fluff" of mpg savings gadgetry and the like. Also, maybe leaning towards a shorter stroke motor for possible future forced induction would be a better "long term" option? Thoughts? That's about it for the 6.1.

Now the 6.4. What do I like about it? uh.....392....nuff said? Like I mentioned the mds is a little bit of a turn off, but it's a 392....HEMI......Also, I have read that they handle boost very well in the 10lb range but over that may take some additional thought. But, I don't need a 9 second car. If I was running with Hellcats, I would be more than wetting myself.....lol. As I have drove a Hellcat and that is more than enough in my opinion.

So, again, I know there are benefits to each, and I just want to know what I am looking at getting and lock it in. I hate going back and forth with well, maybe a 6.4, but the 6.1....but the 6.4.....so that is the purpose for this post. My plans for one are nothing off the chart, but intake, full header back exhaust, suspension, wheels, blah, blah.....but then possibly forced induction......probably forced induction....haha. So I want to start with the right car. Thanks!

well i thank if i was goin for the 6.1 i go on and get thee hellcat if u goin to forced induction then again the hellcat but u going to just goin to get one or the other well there is the hellcat if u r putting the the money in to it there is the helllcat and u do know that the hellcat is just a re engineered 6.1 but i like the 392 also
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Actually the Hellcat is a 6.4 with a 5.7 crank. And it is 70k....lol. I can pick up a 6.1 for under 30k, supercharge it, put an adjustable coilover suspension on it, tuner, headers with full exhaust, rims/tires, and still be under 40k......But the Hellcat is badass. I drove a friend of mines. Plus theres the "I did it" factor.....
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Actually the Hellcat is a 6.4 with a 5.7 crank. And it is 70k....lol. I can pick up a 6.1 for under 30k, supercharge it, put an adjustable coilover suspension on it, tuner, headers with full exhaust, rims/tires, and still be under 40k......But the Hellcat is badass. I drove a friend of mines. Plus theres the "I did it" factor.....

and i do like the shaker hoods on the shaker vers
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I say get a 6.1 and mod it up to beat a hellcat.
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That's what I like to hear.... On multiple levels....lol
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and i do like the shaker hoods on the shaker vers
Yes...that hood, or the 6-pack hood. But my overall fav now is actually the Hellcat hood.
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Yes...that hood, or the 6-pack hood. But my overall fav now is actually the Hellcat hood.


mine is still the old fashion shaker dont know why just always loved it and the dodge boys are the only one's offering a a real one,,, most other ones are fake most ram air hood scoops u see are for looks,,,,
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